“Apart from Denmark in 1992, have any teams won tournaments or competitions for which they didn’t originally qualify?” enquires John Palfreyman.
It’s Europa League week, so allow’s begin with the groups that won that competitors after heading out of theChampions League (Yes, yes, we understand that practically they certified yet they still arrived by means of the back entrance and the parachute. The meaning of ‘didn’ t initially certify’ remains in the eye of the observer so we have actually consisted of any kind of possibly qualified tale we discover slightly intriguing, which is primarily every one of them.)
“This has happened on nine occasions,” composesJim Hearson “Galatasaray started the fun at the turn of the millennium, and were subsequently followed by Feyenoord, CSKA Moscow, Shakhtar Donetsk, Chelsea, Atlético Madrid (twice) and, of course, the #EuropaMen of Sevilla, who repeated the trick in 2016 and 2023.
“It’s happened once in the Conference League too – just last season, in fact – when Olympiacos dropped out of the Europa League before going on to clinch Europe’s tertiary competition.”
Sevilla likewise won the Europa League in uncommon conditions in 2013-14. “They finished ninth in La Liga in 2012-13,” startsDirk Maas “However, Málaga (who came sixth) and Rayo Vallecano (eighth) were barred from playing in Europe for financial reasons.”
Dirk has 2 various other situations from European football. “Dinamo Tbilisi won the 1980-81 Cup Winners’ Cup, famously thrashing West Ham at Upton Park en route, but technically they shouldn’t have been in the competition: they were beaten in the Soviet Cup final by Shakhtar Donetsk. But the final took place in August, after the Uefa deadline, and Shakhtar – who finished above Dinamo in the league – had already been awarded a Uefa Cup place.”
The various other is Perugia, that was just one of the 3 champions of the 2003Intertoto Cup They had actually just completed 10th in Serie A however participated when Chievo refused their invite.
The Intertoto Cup is tiny beer contrasted to the following tale. “Atlético Madrid are the only team who have been champions of the world but not Europe,” composesRuben “They lost the final of the European Cup in 1974 to Bayern Munich but went on to win the Intercontinental Cup (defeating Copa Libertadores winner Independiente) the following year after Bayern declined to participate. And though some other European Cup runners-up have appeared in the Intercontinental Cup (eg Borussia Mönchengladbach in 1977 and Milan), Atléti are the only team to win it.
“Atlético also played an inadvertent part in Sir Bobby Robson’s finest hour as manager of FC Barcelona. They did the double in 1995-96, beating Johan Cruyff’s Barça in the Copa del Rey final; Barça thus qualified for the Cup Winners’ Cup and, armed with a new manager and a new signing called Ronaldo, went all the way. The other teams to win the Cup Winners’ Cup after losing their domestic cup final are Fiorentina (1960-61), Rangers (1971-72) and Anderlecht (1977-78).
“A couple of Uefa Cup winners also only qualified because of a result in their domestic cup final. Bayer Leverkusen (1987-88) finished sixth in the Bundesliga the previous season and were only given a Uefa Cup spot when Hamburg (second) beat second-tier team Stuttgart Kickers in the cup final.
“The same thing happened to plucky Bayern Munich. They came sixth in the Bundesliga in 1994-95 – imagine – but were given a Uefa Cup place when Borussia Mönchengladbach (fifth) beat second-tier Wolfsburg in the final. With their new signing Jürgen Klinsmann scoring an obscene 15 goals, Bayern won the Uefa Cup.
Thanks to Ruben for these examples, and a thorough list of smaller competitions in Europe and South America that were were won by non-qualifiers.
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Copa Interamericana Universidad Católica (1993), Atlético Nacional (1995)
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Copa de Oro Flamengo (1996)
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Copa Conmebol Talleres (1999)
There are some more tales on the Lucky Losers page of the marvellous RSSSF.
And finally, an example from international football that doesn’t involve Peter Schmeichel and John Jensen. “West Germany won the 1981 Fifa World Youth Championship (now called the Under-20 World Cup),” tweets Ben Janeson, “having only qualified because of the Netherlands’ withdrawal.”
Hard to defeat (and shed to)
Dumbarton have actually currently attracted their 6 opening organization suits. Is there a much longer run?
— JockThe Kipper (@JockThe Kipper) September 17, 2024
Dumbarton’s run of attracts finished at the weekend break when they shed 1-0 in your home toMontrose Nobody has actually had the ability to cover a document of P6 W0 D6 L0 yet Chris Roe has a number of comparable instances from England.
First up, Stockport County in 1973-74. Their series of outcomes deserves listing: 1-1, 1-1, 1-1, 1-1, 2-2, 1-1, 0-4, 1-1, 1-1. Seven 1-1 attracts the initial 9 organization video games. Frustrating as heck for all gotten in touch with the club, yet more effective to what complied with: they shed 19 of the last 37 video games to end up base of Division Four.
The various other situation remained in the leading trip in 1976-77. Jimmy Bloomfield’s Leicester City, that had actually attracted 19 video games the previous period, consisting of 6 of the initial 7, went one far better by attracting every one of their initial 6 organization video games.
They shed the 7th, 2-0 away to Aston Villa, yet their period ended up a little far better than Stockport’s. Thanks mostly to the objectives of Frank Worthington and Steve Earle, Leicester completed securely in mid-table.
Every loser success (II)
In recently’s Knowledge we checked out groups that had actually commemorated loss and/or transfer with an open-top bus trip. As ever before, there’s even more.
“Newcastle have history with this,” composesRussell Hughes “There’s BBC archive footage from 1974.” Newcastle were well defeated, 3-0 by Liverpool, yet rated home with such love that their goalkeeper Iam McFaul was decreased to splits.
Knowledge archive
“Juventus have drawn their last three Serie A games 0-0,” notesBogdan Kotarlic “Which team played in the most consecutive goalless draws?”
We had this concern back in 2017. Here’s what we stated after that.
This concern was created George Graham, and he hasn’t allow us down. His Arsenal interplay 4 organization video games in October 1993 and attracted the whole lot 0-0. In Arsenal’s support, or instead their strike, they did rack up some objectives in mug suits throughout the month yet 4 successive 0-0s in the organization is quite outstanding.
Surprisingly sufficient, Ars ène Wenger’s Arsenal likewise handled a quartet of 0-0s in the organization throughout the 2008-09 period– though they likewise racked up and yielded in mug video games throughout that duration.
Goalless George did it once more at Spurs, with 4 successive 0-0 attracts January and February 2001. They were done in the organization yet as no mug video games were played because duration it counts as 4 successive 0-0s in all competitors. Sergei Rebrov was guilty of terrible statisticide when, in the following organization suit at Manchester City, he racked up the only objective in the 90th min.
Wolves checked the will of season-ticket owners with 4 successive 0-0s at Molineux at the backside of the 2015-16 period. Udinese handled 4 straight in the 1982-83 Serie A period, a project in which– and you’ll like this– they attracted 20 of their 30 video games. Como matched that task in Serie A in 1986-87. That period they played 30 video games, racked up 16 objectives and yielded 20.
Best of all, previously this year FC Rostov complied with a 6-0 win at Tom Tomsk with five consecutive 0-0 draws in the Russian Premier League, though they were stressed by a Europa League goalfest at Old Trafford: Rostov shed 1-0.
Can you aid?
“The long-running comedy series that is Heart of Midlothian FC continued when they sacked Steven Naismith on Sunday following a 2-1 defeat by St Mirren. The two permanent managers before Naismith, Robbie Neilson and Daniel Stendel, were also sacked after defeats to St Mirren. Is a team taking out three consecutive managers a record?” marvels Tom Ball.
In last evening’s video game, Milan had 3 English gamers on the pitch (Abraham, Tomori, & &Loftus- Cheek) & while Liverpool just had 2 ((* )&Trent).(* )typically has this took place in the past in Gomez, where the group from nation A has even more gamers from nation B than the group from nation B?How– Europe (@Denvek25)
notes David Kelly McSeptember 18, 2024
“In the first two knockout rounds of the Scottish League Cup, all 12 ties were won by the home side,” gan. Stuart marvels La.“Is there a precedent for this kind of collective failure of visiting teams?”
“Has anyone scored hat-tricks in the same fixture for both teams?” current Masai Graham meeting stated he was sacked from a very early, non-leaguejob after loss to a young
Your David Pleat the most affordable degree component in between 2 supervisors that likewise took on in the leading trip?Ron Atkinson’s Kettering– What’s (@nps881)
asks DW.Nigel Smith marvels September 17, 2024
“Arsenal’s Myles Lewis-Skelly was booked at before his first appearance for the club. Any other instances of this?”.
“The recent match between Aston Villa and Everton included six players who have appeared for both clubs (Ashley Young, Idrissa Gueye, Ross Barkley, Lucas Digne, Amadou Onana and Tim Iroegbunam). Is this a Premier League record?” us your inquiries or tweet Rory Walsh.
