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Union Home Minister Amit Shah on Wednesday mentioned a variety of subjects on the Rising Bharat Summit with Network18’s Editor-in-Chief Rahul Joshi.

From giving a sneak peek into his day-to-day life to the brand new Waqf legal guidelines, right here’s what the union minister talked about:

Rahul Joshi: Amit Bhai, welcome to Rising Bharat. Thank you very a lot for taking out this time. This is our ultimate final session. Everyone is keen to hearken to you. But this time I need to begin another way. Yesterday, the Prime Minister got here and he spoke for the primary time in regards to the Waqf invoice. So I need you to hearken to a clip after which we’ll reply the questions.

(PM Modi’s video clip)

“The thought of a separate country was not of ordinary Muslim families. But it was of a group of extremists, which some leaders of the Congress supported and nurtured. So that they can claim power alone. Friends, in this appeasement politics, Congress got power. Some extremist leaders got power and wealth. But the question is, what did the ordinary Muslim get? What did the poor and backward Muslim get? They got neglect. They got illiteracy. They got unemployment. And what did Muslim women get? They got injustice like Shah Bano where their constitutional right was at stake of extremism.”

Rahul Joshi: Amit Ji, Modi ji said that the leaders of that time kept power over national interest. So I want to know from you, what people is Modi ji talking about? Which leaders got support of the extremists? Why did they do this? And for the partition, he says that the poor Muslims did not want the partition. Poor Muslims never wanted this.

Amit Shah: Everyone knows that when the Muslim League stood in the elections, and stood on the basis of the two-nation principle. Before the partition, the last elections of the local state legislatures. In that, the Muslim League was defeated in the part of Pakistan. The Muslim people did not want this country to be divided. And one thing Modi ji has said correctly that the leaders of the Congress at that time are responsible for the partition of the nation. Their policy of appeasement is responsible for the partition of the nation.

And even today, through your program, I want to say especially to the youth of the country that endure anything else, but appeasement is such a poisonous thing, which the youth generation should throw away from the country forever. Those who do the politics of appeasement, they put the national’s interest at stake. They compromise with the interests of the country because of the Waqf bank. And within the country, they do the work of seeding a new country. But Modi ji looks a little worried. I also want to tell the youth. That a lot of time has passed. Modi ji has been able to free this country from casteism, nepotism, and appeasement for 10 years. He has done the work of taking it towards the policy of development. Our youth generation has to move it forward. Decide on any party, the youth should have equal opportunities in the party. The policy of the party should not be in the interest of the party. It should be in the interest of the country. And the party should rise above casteism, discrimination, and language. It should be a party that cares for the country. Choose any party, vote for the one who is free from casteism, discrimination, and nepotism. And this is the true path to the development of our country and safety of our democracy.

Rahul Joshi: There were many leaders in Congress at that time. You did not answer my question. Which leaders were they?

Amit Shah: It would be very painful to single out. But Congress later made Prime Minister to Nehru Ji.

Rahul Joshi: So the signal is on his side.

Amit Shah: This is not a question of signal. In the end, the Prime Minister is the one who makes the decisions. If our leader is Modi, then Modi will be the Prime Minister. Congress made Nehru at that time. But I say this with certainty that you raise the youth of the country, bring anyone to the stage and ask, “would you have taken partition at that time?” Partition has not been completed. The leaders of the Congress Party at the moment have accepted partition. And I imagine that no nation can compromise with this.

Rahul Joshi: Let’s transfer on to the second query. You say that you’ve introduced the Waqf invoice and ended injustice on Muslims. And the Muslim group says that there isn’t a higher injustice than that.

Amit Shah: Mr. Rahul, don’t make such a loaded assertion within the title of your complete group. You shall be in hassle. The Muslim group doesn’t need injustice with them. A number of politicians need it. I ask you just a few easy questions. Currently, is there any obligatory provision for ladies within the legislation of the Waqf? Should they arrive or not? Should Muslim ladies on this nation get a share within the Waqf Board and Waqf Council or not? 80% of the Muslim group is of the backward class. They are poor. In a manner, they’re OBC. Should they get illustration within the Waqf Board or not? Shia, Agha Khani, Dawoodi Wara, Mohammadia, Ahmadia, all these Muslims would not have any illustration. They are additionally Muslims. Why ought to they not get it? And the Congress Party talks about minorities. If we preserve a minority inside a minority, then we oppose it. This invoice is a invoice that represents each a part of the Muslim group.

Secondly, you should have seen the talk. Congress leaders used to say, what has gone incorrect? I need to inform the folks of this nation via the TV18 program. From freedom to 2013, since Islam got here to India, the quantity of land within the Waqf was 18 lakh acres. All the Waqf earlier than the Mughals got here to India. Because in Delhi, the Waqf occurred throughout the Sultanate interval. And after the legislation of 2013 got here, 21 lakh acres of land elevated to 18 lakh acres. So this reveals that within the legislation of 2013, you made such an association that was not honest. You declared the land of anybody as a Waqf, whether or not it was the land of Hindus. The whole village was declared as a Waqf, the place persons are residing. Some 1500 yr previous temples have been declared as Waqf, the place worship is completed. How can this be completed? And this was not earlier than 2013. At the tip of the 2014 election, the Congress Party labored to safe its vote financial institution.

And I need to let you know, all of the Muslim brothers should be listening to me. This is 39 lakh acres of land. Some argue that there’s a graveyard, some say there’s a mosque, some say there’s a Dargah. All these usually are not greater than 5%. What does income get from 39 lakh acres of land? What does it get at the moment? 123 crore rupees. This is a land greater than the railway and armed forces. So the place is it going at the moment? Those who’ve gone again, they’re doing corruption. Because the audit system will not be proper.

We have improved the audit system via the legislation. Through the legislation, we’ve got given illustration to each sect of the Muslim group. And they’ve a really large argument. That interfering in our spiritual issues. Brother Rahul, there may be no greater lie than this. The Waqif makes the Waqf and the Mutawalli manages it. According to different religions, the Waqf is a belief. The belief is made by the one who makes it. The Waqf is made by the one who makes it. We haven’t offered any provision to maintain non-Muslims in it.

Rahul Joshi: But you’ve put two members in it.

Amit Shah: Those have been put within the board and the council.

Rahul Joshi: They say it’s within the temple belief…

Amit Shah: Listen to me. It is the temple belief. You can not preserve them within the temple belief. You can not preserve them within the Waqf both. But is the charity commissioner a obligatory for Hindus? It could be a Sikh, it may be a Muslim, it may be a Christian. I agree that it shouldn’t be stored within the temple belief. It shouldn’t be stored within the Waqf both. If the belief is a spiritual belief, then it must be within the palms of Hindus. If the Waqf is a property of Allah, then it must be within the palms of Muslims. But the belief, whether or not it’s operating in keeping with the legal guidelines of charity or not, it’s a enterprise, it’s a system. Where does faith come from? Even then, we’ve got stored two in 22. We have stored two in 14. But inform me one factor. What I mentioned earlier, your complete village has been made a Waqf. Some temples have additionally been made. So, is there a non-Hindu dispute over the property or not?

Rahul Joshi: Yes.

Amit Shah: Yes or no?

Rahul Joshi: Yes.

Amit Shah: So, is there a celebration or not? If two Hindus have a look at it from the viewpoint of neutrality, then what is going to go incorrect? That Hindus don’t even have that a lot proper on this nation? This is a totally hole factor, which the Congress has as soon as once more, to provide foundation to their ending existence, the coverage of appeasement. And if that was all, then Priyanka ji didn’t even come to place a vote. Rahul ji didn’t even give a speech. If your occasion has a significant coverage, then what could be a greater stage than the parliament? The greatest panchayat within the democratic system. Rahul ji didn’t even communicate there. We had given 50% time to their occasion. 50%. And they are saying they don’t allow us to communicate. If it’s the time of your occasion, then you’ll resolve. You didn’t even communicate. Now what can we do? Now we’ll shout. Then they are saying they don’t allow us to communicate. They don’t allow us to communicate. Rahul Gandhi may have spoken the entire time given to his occasion. Neither his occasion desires it, nor they need it.

Rahul Joshi: The opposition occasion can be saying that the narrative that you’re making, you additionally mentioned it with a number of braveness within the Lok Sabha. Yesterday, the Prime Minister gave a terrific speech right here. He is saying that it is a approach to get near Pasmanda Muslims and girls, poor Muslims. But my query is a bit bigger. Do you assume that Muslims will ever include the BJP? Will any belief be constructed sooner or later in order that you’ll get some votes from there too?

Amit Shah: Rahul ji, the whole lot will not be vote financial institution politics. If the whole lot was for votes, we’d not have been in a position to make such large selections. Some issues within the nation need to be completed to take away the incorrect coverage. And solely those that can do who consider the nation. And if these folks assume that our intention is to get votes from Muslim sisters, Pasmanda Muslims, Sia, Bohra, Agha Khani, Mohammadya. then why are you getting them offended? You additionally settle for it. They argue to do it. They additionally know that it isn’t a matter of votes. It is a matter of association.

Rahul Joshi: When the CAA invoice was handed, there was a bit violence within the nation. Are you nervous about this?

Amit Shah: It is excellent that you’ve talked about the CAA. I needed somebody to ask, nobody requested. You requested, it was good. Rahul Gandhi and firm shouted in entrance of the entire nation that the citizenship of Muslims shall be misplaced from CAA. Now two years have handed for the reason that CAA was totally carried out. I problem Rahul Gandhi to inform us if even one Muslim has misplaced their citizenship. The Congress Party has misled the entire nation. The Indian Alliance has misled them that the citizenship of Muslims shall be misplaced. Citizenship shall be misplaced. Violence was dedicated within the nation. Those have been liable for violence.

Rahul Joshi: Don’t you assume there’s any such concern?

Amit Shah: Some will need to have understood it.

Rahul Joshi: Let’s transfer on to a different topic, delimitation. This challenge has additionally been highly regarded in the previous couple of months. Can you guarantee the southern states that there shall be no scarcity of seats as a result of delimitation?

Amit Shah: People from the South may not be capable of perceive with simply my plain assurance. I need to say one thing. There is a Congress authorities in Himachal Pradesh. Is there something taking place for delimitation?

Rahul Joshi: No.

Amit Shah: In some states the place the Indian Alliance is in energy, is one thing taking place concerning delimitation?

Rahul Joshi: No.

Amit Shah: Why is it taking place solely in Tamil Nadu?

Rahul Joshi: Elections are coming.

Amit Shah: Has the federal government declared delimitation?

Rahul Joshi: No.

Amit Shah: Have we made a delimitation act?

Rahul Joshi: No.

Amit Shah: Has a Supreme Court choose been appointed within the delimitation fee? No. So what is going on at the moment? The folks of Tamil Nadu have develop into in opposition to you as a result of rampant corruption. To cowl this up, you might be elevating this challenge. What is going on in bringing delimitation? Let me make clear. There is not any want for the political events of the southern states to fret. The BJP guarantees that no injustice shall be completed to anybody. Your pro-rata seats shall be as it’s.

Rahul Joshi: So if there are 750 seats, in keeping with the pro-rata, their seats shall be 180 seats.

Amit Shah: I’ve mentioned this earlier than. But they don’t need to pay attention. If they shut down chaos, they should reply for corruption. They should reply for nepotism. They don’t need all these in elections.

Rahul Joshi: So if there are 750 seats, the seats of Uttar Pradesh may even enhance to 110-120 seats. This is a really large quantity.

Amit Shah: Rahul Ji, the delimitation fee has to make an act each time. Until now, the act had a life span of 25 years. Now there shall be a brand new act. If there’s a new act, it is going to be within the parliament. That will not be a hidden factor. Before that, there shall be all-party consultations. There shall be an act. It will go to the committee. Even if it goes straight, then additionally there shall be a dialogue. There is nothing but, you might be doing such a chaos simply since you need a problem within the election.

Rahul Joshi: I used to be saying that if there are such a lot of seats in Uttar Pradesh, like Mr. Mayawati used to say that the state must be divided into 4 elements.

Amit Shah: They are doing it for the vote financial institution. You are doing it for TRP. The delimitation has not come but, why are you elevating this challenge time and again?

Rahul Joshi: Delimitation can solely occur when new census come. So, how will this occur? When will this occur? And on this, the problem of caste censors which the opposition can be demanding, what’s your opinion on this?

Amit Shah: Last delimitation was additionally completed on the idea of the 2001 census. This will not be obligatory. But each time delimitation needs to be completed, how will or not it’s completed? On what foundation will or not it’s completed? And how will or not it’s completed? All this turns into a legislation and is handed within the parliament, then the method of delimitation begins as a result of it’s the foundation of our democracy. The parliament and our legislature meeting are collage of our democracy they usually come from there. So, designing their constituency can’t be a extra necessary job in democracy than this. And the legislation of the parliament is handed solely after the approval of the President. And no occasion is concerned on this. In this, a choose of the Supreme Court is in control of this.

Rahul Joshi: One extra large challenge is One Nation One Poll. There has been a number of dialogue about it. You have completed a number of work in it. How will you be capable of do that? To cross this, you want two-thirds majority. What different events can be part of you? How are you seeing this matter? In this tenure, can we see one thing taking place?

Amit Shah: Look, you might be asking such a query, like, Gandhi JI requested for the nation to be liberated, so somebody requested him the best way to do it as a result of it was the rule of the British. It is like this. It’s like this, brother – we’ve taken our challenge to the folks, and we’re additionally holding applications among the many public. In two or three years, the environment will develop into such that no occasion will be capable of oppose the concept of One Nation, One Election. Because, it’s within the curiosity of the nation. Can somebody inform me – by holding elections time and again, spending cash repeatedly, what precisely are we making an attempt to do on this nation? Why shouldn’t elections be held all of sudden on this nation? What is the explanation? They say it isn’t constitutional. They don’t argue. They simply preserve repeating the identical one-liner time and again that’s it isn’t constitutional.

How is it not constitutional? If it isn’t, how did you conduct three elections? Until the Congress Party began to interrupt the federal government, all of the elections have been performed on the identical time. And two or three states, 4 states grew to become new, so the elections have been performed one after the opposite. To do it collectively, Congress dissolved the meeting. The identical Congress Party is saying that it’s in opposition to democracy. By dissolving the meeting of seven states, One Nation One Poll was performed. And at the moment they’re opposing it. The folks don’t assume like this. The folks have their very own mind-set. The leaders themselves imagine that if I say it, the folks will imagine it. And then when the outcomes come, they are saying that there’s a drawback with the EVM. Actually, what you say, the folks don’t imagine it.

Rahul Joshi: Now they’re saying that you’ve additionally stolen the Maharashtra election.

Amit Shah: If they’d received, what would they’ve mentioned? We have been there for 10 years. In our 10 years, their Telangana authorities was fashioned. The authorities was fashioned in Chennai. It was fashioned in Bengal. It was fashioned in Himachal. How was it fashioned then?

Rahul Joshi: Speaking of Congress, I want to ask you a query. The AICC session is occurring. We are studying the information coming from there. The leaders imagine that– there are two sorts of ideas. One is to abuse Modi, to talk in opposition to Modi, to face behind Modi. And the opposite leaders imagine that you simply also needs to put the choice thought and different imaginative and prescient to folks. What would you prefer to say about this?

Amit Shah: Look, which means some smart persons are nonetheless there. Because it’s the expertise of so a few years. From 2001 to 2025, the variety of instances Modi ji was abused, his mom additionally abused him, he additionally abused him. The variety of instances Modi ji was abused, he got here out stronger. They don’t know that our occasion’s election is sort of a lotus which blooms in mud. It blooms extra. We come out of the mud of abuses. They don’t know that.

Rahul Joshi: Amit Ji, I’m interviewing you after a very long time. I spoke to you throughout the 2024 elections. I’ve a query for you. In 2024, you had a slogan, this time, past 400. The BJP obtained 240 seats. Where did it go incorrect? Where did it go incorrect in politics?

Amit Shah: Look, Rahul ji, I additionally imagine that our seats have been decreased. It is a truth. But what they’re saying, they have been saying this and that. Tell me, if a participant goes to play a match, regardless of how the workforce is, regardless of how the pitch is, what is going to he say? Will he say that he’ll lose at the moment? We had 300 seats. We mentioned 400. What is incorrect on this? We at all times assume that we’ll enhance and we’ll. Even now, I say, we’ll win Tamil Nadu, we’ll win Bihar, and their goals shall be cleaned.

Rahul Joshi: After 2024, you’ve additionally received three grand victories. You have received in Haryana very effectively. In Maharashtra, I used to be informed by Mr. Fadnavis that he didn’t even assume that so many seats would come and a few many seats got here. In Delhi, you defeated Mr. Kejriwal’s authorities. How did this occur? How do you bounce again?

Amit Shah: Look, within the elections, some false propaganda was completed, some complicated talks have been unfold. This had some impact. Some votes have been much less. When the outcome got here, everybody was upset that we didn’t do that proper with Modi JI. And due to this, the assist of the BJP has additionally elevated. And with nice power, the victories in these three states have stamped approval on Modi Ji’s work.

Rahul Joshi: You communicate quite a bit in Hindi, so let’s speak a bit a few language challenge. This can be associated to the South.

Amit Shah: First, let me make clear a bit. I’m not a Hindi language speaker. I’m Gujarati. I talk about Hindi’s favor, it’s the propaganda of the opposition. I do talk about Indian languages. And I imagine that this nation has to stay to its tradition, tradition and historical past. So each language of the nation needs to be taken care of. And not simply mine, each citizen of the nation has a duty. Because an individual can solely assume of their mom tongue. In their mom tongue, an individual can do evaluation, logic, primarily based on which he can take selections. And primarily based on this, he could make an implementation plan. This complete course of takes place within the mom tongue. But what can I do if some folks’s mom language don’t belong to right here. I used to be born in India. So I talk about Indian languages. All this shouting and noise they make is pointless.

Let me let you know that earlier than we got here right here, I need to make it clear, earlier than we got here right here, the Congress Party for therefore a few years pushed Hindi and English on the kids of all languages. The UPSC check of IAS and IPS didn’t are available different languages. In 2015, Narendra Modi determined that you may give papers in Tamil, in Gujarati, in Marathi, and in Malayali. By 2020, the admission of CAPFs, their papers are written solely in Hindi and English. Today it’s written in 13 languages. We have entered Tamil, Gujarati, Marathi, Bengali. BJP has carried out this. You left it to English. In their time, there have been no bulletins in native languages on the native stations. That additionally we’ve got carried out. In their time, medical and engineering obligatory needed to be studied in English. We made it entry in native languages. Today, it has been completed in Madhya Pradesh, Uttar Pradesh, Rajasthan. All the medical programs have been translated into Hindi. We will make preparations to show engineering in 13 languages earlier than 2026.

Rahul Joshi: Is it incorrect for DMK to say Hindi, Hindu, Hindustan? Is it incorrect?

Amit Shah: Modi Ji had lately visited, and he mentioned very clearly-if there’s even a single DMK chief whose signature is in Tamil, then present me.

Rahul Joshi: They do it in English.

Amit Shah: Our states have translated medical and engineering programs of their language. They don’t even begin in Tamil. And they may speak about Tamil.

Rahul Joshi: One scorching matter, which isn’t only a matter of India, however a subject of the entire world, is the subject of tariff. So, what would be the impact of this tariff warfare on India? Please clarify this.

Amit Shah: Look, it will be too hasty to evaluate the affect. Tariff has not been imposed solely on India. It has been imposed on many international locations. A better tariff has been imposed on our opponents than on us. So, what would be the affect of this? It’s doable that our items could also be in higher demand, and preparations could be made for our merchandise to succeed in many international locations. It’s a really advanced challenge, and nobody ought to attempt to assess its affect in such haste.

Rahul Joshi: The type of panic that’s being talked about. Do you assume there’s any such panic in India?

Amit Shah: No, I imagine that the folks of this nation by no means fall into such panic. This is a bit of dialogue in media solely. So sure, there’s an impact-it’s not that there’s no impact-but progressively, issues will stabilize

Rahul Joshi: Everyone desires to know. Some of my colleagues have additionally mentioned that I have to ask you-who would be the subsequent president of the Bharatiya Janata Party? This has been a subject of dialogue for a very long time, it’s been within the headlines too, however no particular title has come out but.

Amit Shah: It hasn’t been determined but.

Rahul Joshi: Not in any respect. How a lot time will it take? Your smile makes me really feel such as you’re hiding one thing.

Amit Shah: No, nothing has been determined but. Come on, the president of a celebration with 13 crore members can’t keep hidden, proper? The second it’s destined, it is going to be made public. As quickly because the nomination is filed, the title shall be introduced instantly.

Rahul Joshi: So why is it taking so lengthy?

Amit Shah: Yes, it’s taking time.

Rahul Joshi: I bear in mind as soon as I requested him a number of questions-how many tickets shall be given out, who will get what-and he mentioned, “When the time comes, you’ll be invited too, and then you’ll find out. Now, a fire broke out at the house of a Delhi High Court judge-specifically in the outhouse-and during the firefighting operation, a large amount of cash was recovered. So my question is: an image like this has come before the country. Are you satisfied with the action being taken behind this? What should be done? How can people be assured that everything is fair?

Amit Shah: Look, the traditions that have been followed so far, is that if an issue arises concerning a High Court judge, then it is the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court who has to take the decision. He has made a committee. We should have faith in the judicial process of the Supreme Court. Everything will be clear when the report comes. I just want to say that there was no delay in the decision to form a committee. And I hope that soon-since the public is also viewing this very seriously-that soon the committee’s report will be out, and after that, steps will be taken to ensure such incidents do not happen in the future. Through the Supreme Court’s channel, this will be made public. We’ll also see, and you all should too.

Rahul Joshi: Now, a slightly related question regarding the judiciary. There’s been an ongoing issue about the appointment process in the higher judiciary. There was a talk regarding NJAC, but the Supreme Court struck it down as unconstitutional. What’s your opinion on this?

Amit Shah: Well, see, I cannot have a personal opinion because I am bound by a party. I don’t hold any personal opinion. I can express my opinion within my party. The party takes a collective decision. Similarly, even in government, I don’t have personal views. Personal views are only expressed when the Prime Minister calls for discussion, or when I present them in the Cabinet. Outside of that, the Cabinet’s decision is our decision. But yes, I believe that this incident has sparked a new debate. There’s considerable public interest. Let’s wait and see what the committee says.

Rahul Joshi: You are saying that there should be a discussion after that.

Amit Shah: Well, the debate is already happening. Who can stop anyone from debating? But the clarity will come based on what the committee reports.

Rahul Joshi: Let’s now move toward Jammu and Kashmir. You were there yesterday as well. When will statehood be granted? What do you think? And how do you assess the new government?

Amit Shah: Look, BJP is an all India based party. We have created a government under the leadership of two leaders in India. We created it under the leadership of Atal ji. And for a long time, we created it under the leadership of Modi ji. The BJP has never thought about who the state government belongs to when it is in power. Nor are we thinking about Kashmir. I went to review it yesterday. Mr. Omar was sitting with me. We had lunch together. His photo was also very good. And the way we behave with all the state governments is the same. But our stand is firm on the matter of security and separatism. We will not compromise on this. Nor will we let anyone do it.

Rahul Joshi: Recently, some minor infiltration incidents have surfaced in the Katwa region. Do you think this is linked to Pakistan-sponsored terrorism?

Amit Shah: No, no. Infiltration can’t come from Russia, only from Pakistan. It can only happen from there. And they’ve been doing this for years. But our country’s soldiers are very alert. The government is also alert. We won’t let any major incident happen here. And if it does, we will take strict action.

Rahul Joshi: Let’s move slightly towards the issue of illegal migration. You’ve raised this matter several times, especially about Bangladesh, where this increased after a political upheaval. So what steps will you take to make it difficult and to control it?

Amit Shah: First of all, I would like to appeal to the people of Bengal: in the upcoming elections, please form a BJP government. This problem will end right there because Mamata ji accuses us of not monitoring the border properly. But how is the infiltration happening, and how are they traveling from Bengal to Delhi and Bengal to Jammu? What is the Indian government doing?

Everyone in the country knows that despite fencing the border, about 250 kilometers of it is such that fencing is simply not possible-there are drains, large rivers, difficult geographical conditions. And around 400 kilometers is such where the Bengal government is not giving us land for fencing. When you have about 600 kilometers of open border, stopping infiltration becomes very difficult-especially during heavy rains, cold, and summers, when the drains overflow and people cross through dense jungles.

But I want to raise a small question and make things clear for the people of this country. They come here in this country, whether Rohingyas or Bangladeshis, but where their voter card is being made, so that they travel all over India-from Uttarakhand to Kashmir? All these voter cards are being made in Bengal’s 24 Parganas district. Thousands of fake documents found on arrested Bangladeshis show the same district-it’s not even changed. It’s all fake-voter cards, Aadhaar cards, everything-from 24 Parganas.

Now I want to ask Mamata ji, who is responsible for this? Okay, someone entered illegally, fine-the public will figure that out. But once someone enters a village, wouldn’t the village patwari know that 25 new people have arrived? Wouldn’t the local police be aware? Who is making their Aadhaar cards? Who is issuing their voter cards? She says that Aadhaar is under the central government, but the final authority is the District Collector, who is under your government. Even the Election Commission’s local representative is the Collector, who again is under your government. These parties in the INDIA alliance have shown a vote-bank mindset in this matter.

Rahul Joshi: So what is the solution?

Amit Shah: Why was it stopped in Assam then? We will definitely find a solution. But I want to use this platform to tell the people of Bengal that there’s a simple solution-just form a BJP government, and the solution will come automatically.

Rahul Joshi: What do you think? Will BJP form the government in the next election? Last time, you came very close but couldn’t form the government. Even in the Lok Sabha elections, there was a setback.

Amit Shah: Look, we had four members earlier-we reached 77. The media, which includes you, often misses this point. Congress ruled for 27 years and went down to zero, but no one says they faced a setback. The Communist party, which ruled for 27 years, also went down to zero-still no mention of a setback. But we went from 4 to 77 in one election-that’s almost a 20-times jump. Governments are formed like that, and we’ve formed many.

Rahul Joshi: Yes, 77 was a big achievement. You did perform very well. But I was saying that in the upcoming elections, people had high expectations from the last Lok Sabha polls. The seats were fewer this time.

Amit Shah: Naturally, there are fewer seats. But since then, we have expanded our organization a lot. We’ve increased membership, even in dry areas. We have appointed full-time workers. We are looking at this seriously. Bengal is not just important for the BJP-it is important for the country. It’s essential that either BJP or any nationalist party wins there. That’s why we’re focusing on Bengal.

Rahul Joshi: Now regarding the 25,000 annulments-Supreme Court’s decision-Mamata ji is saying no one’s job will go. She says, “Let’s see who dares to act.”

Amit Shah: She can say something. But I can’t say I received’t settle for a Supreme Court determination. Otherwise, additionally, you will take away the little hair that I’ve left.

Rahul Joshi: Muhammad Yunus says that there’s a query within the context of Bangladesh. The interim chief says that the North-East states are landlocked states. And China has to do one thing via Bangladesh. There is market entry throughout the ocean. How do you see this? How do you see his assertion?

Amit Shah: Look, I simply need to say that Narendra Modi’s authorities won’t let anybody set their eyes on an inch of India’s land. There is not any query of entry.

Rahul Joshi: I’ve requested you this query a few instances. I’ll ask you once more as a result of it is a new tenure. In this third tenure, it’s in regards to the Pakistan Occupied Kashmir POK. What do you need to say about this?

Amit Shah: Look, India’s place could be very clear. It has been clear for years that the Pakistan Occupied Kashmir is ours. As far as when it would come, that’s the query. You additionally perceive this a lot, Rahul, I can’t declare a date or make a public technique on public stage. But each Indian authorities is liable for asserting that POK is ours. It’s not only a declare – we’ve got coverage, historic paperwork, and authorized standing.

Rahul Joshi: Pakistan says that India is behind the assaults in Balochistan. What’s your view?

Amit Shah: They can’t deal with it anymore, in order that they’ll simply preserve saying one thing or the opposite. But their drawback must be handled.

Rahul Joshi: But does India assist the independence of the Baluch folks?

Amit Shah: Look, there isn’t a query of India’s assist. The manner the federal government is operating of their nation, there’s dissatisfaction in some areas. We can not restore this.

Rahul Joshi: There is a requirement for a Hindu nation in Nepal. How do you see this demand?

Amit Shah: There is democracy there as effectively. Everyone does their very own calls for.

Rahul Joshi: China’s stance is getting softened right here. We see that the talks are rising. Are there any hopes of investments from China?

Amit Shah: Look, I’m not a media individual. These statements don’t decide the type of the nation. We have a number of points. If a optimistic resolution comes out, then it’s a good factor.

Rahul Joshi: Tavurr Rana is being extradited – he’ll be right here in just a few days. Will the identical occur for David Headley? Is there hope?

Amit Shah: The Modi authorities is dedicated to bringing to justice anybody who has harmed India, our residents, or our honor. Tavurr Rana’s return is a giant diplomatic success for our authorities. During earlier governments, these concerned in bomb blasts have been by no means introduced again. Now, he’ll be introduced earlier than the courts and punished underneath the Constitution. This is a good achievement for the nation.

Rahul Joshi: Amit Ji, you’ve made a giant assertion on Naxalism. What is its roadmap? How will it finish? You have additionally given a time-frame. Tell our viewers a bit about it.

Amit Shah: Look, Naxalism was round 120 districts. Now, it’s restricted to 12 districts. Once upon a time, there was a dream of Pasupati to Tirupati. That dream has been shattered. Bihar has been liberated. Jharkhand has been liberated. Maharashtra has nearly been liberated. Only just a few districts are left. Madhya Pradesh has nearly been liberated. Only just a few districts are left. Telangana has been liberated. Andhra Pradesh has been liberated. Orissa has been liberated. Kerala has been liberated. Karnataka has been liberated. Now, only some districts are left. And it has been a bit late as a result of the federal government of the Congress Party got here 5 years within the center.

When I say this, the Congress Party accuses me that you’re a partisan within the struggle in opposition to Naxalism. But I need to give an instance. In 24, our authorities was fashioned in Chhattisgarh. From 24 to 25, a complete of 436 Naxals have been killed, 1,364 have been arrested, and 1,400 surrendered. This will not be even a complete of even 15 years in Chhattisgarh. We have ended the safety vacuum. In the final 5 years, we’ve got constructed about 380 camps. And the troopers of CRPF, the troopers of ITBP, the troopers of BSF, and the police of Chhattisgarh have been working arduous within the dense forest, if I need to use the phrase, then I’d say they’ve been working arduous and are behind the Naxals.

Even now, I need to say via this platform: many have surrendered, laid down arms, returned to the mainstream, and reside peaceable lives. In the Northeast, 10,000 have surrendered. We’ve signed 20 agreements. Terrorism within the Northeast has largely ended. But one factor is for certain – by thirty first March 2026, Naxal violence shall be historical past. It is a agency dedication of our authorities to make India free from Naxalism.

Rahul Joshi: In one yr. Amit ji, the actions of Khalistan are rising in India. What is your opinion? And how succesful is the Punjab authorities in controlling this with you?

Amit Shah: See, that is the first duty of the Punjab authorities, however the central authorities additionally has an obligation. Anyone who talks about breaking the nation, underneath any title, won’t be tolerated. We will crush it with full power. That’s the BJP authorities’s method.

Rahul Joshi: What position will BJP play within the upcoming Punjab elections? Will you ally with Akali Dal?

Amit Shah: It’s mentioned that Brahma created the universe, however even Brahma couldn’t predict what is going to occur in Punjab elections – it’s such a posh situation. But I hope that earlier than the elections, the folks of Punjab will attain in the direction of an excellent determination and a authorities of full energy shall be fashioned.

Rahul Joshi: In Manipur, you might be creating an environment of speak between the 2 communities. How lengthy will the President’s rule stay?

Amit Shah: The President’s rule has not been totally carried out. We have stored the meeting in a quiet state. We are attempting to determine peace between the 2 communities. Some success has been achieved. The incidents have been stopped, however some success has been achieved within the talks as effectively. But I feel there shall be extra.

Rahul Joshi: The nearest subsequent election is in Bihar. What do you assume in Bihar?

Amit Shah: NDA will kind a authorities with the largest majority in Bihar. There is little doubt about it.

Rahul Joshi: Will the seat sharing be the identical because it was final time?

Amit Shah: Our occasion and our alliance will resolve.

Rahul Joshi: Will Nitish Ji be the face of the election?

Amit Shah:
Nitish Ji is the Chief Minister. There is little doubt about it.

Rahul Joshi: Will he be the Chief Minister in the event you win?

Amit Shah: We are preventing the elections underneath the management of Nitish Ji.

Rahul Joshi: I want to ask you some private questions. I ask 2-3 questions each time. But this time…

Amit Shah: What will you do by asking private questions? Nothing will come out.

Rahul Joshi: I’ll nonetheless attempt. I’ve heard that you simply have been born on the day of Sarad Poonam. People know you as Poonam Bhai for a very long time. You have been named late. What was the explanation for this? Please inform us.

Amit Shah: My aunt had vowed that I’d be named after I was 5 years previous. Because I used to be born on the day of Poonam. Everyone used to name me Poonam. There is not any large secret on this. It occurs with each little one within the village.

Rahul Joshi: I’ve heard a narrative from you. When you have been 11 years previous, your loved ones needed you to go to the US. So you left house and ran away.

Amit Shah: I cannot go away India and go wherever. I’ll keep right here. I’ll struggle right here. And I’ll reside right here.

Rahul Joshi: Next yr, 25 years shall be accomplished in Modi’s governance. You have labored intently with him for a very long time. Tell us one thing about this chemistry. How have you ever been working collectively for therefore a few years? How do you complement one another?

Amit Shah: When two employees or leaders work collectively for a very long time, you may perceive one another’s work. You can perceive one another’s mind-set. You can perceive one another’s nature. Whether it’s Modi ji or me, we’ve got to work in keeping with our ideology. Our ideology is our guideline. That is why there isn’t a discord. They additionally assume for the ideology, the nation and the structure. I additionally assume for the ideology, the nation and the structure. So there isn’t a query of discord. When it involves contributing to one another, we’re undoubtedly contributing to one another, however another way. I attempt to preserve my colleagues with me to meet the objectives set by Modi ji. This is my manner of contribution. Modi ji is our chief. All of us employees who have been skilled with him, who labored underneath him-whatever small errors we made, Modi ji forgives and corrects them. In doing so, he contributes to creating us full. This is how we contribute to one another.

But the instance you might be giving of Narendra Modi and Amit Shah, there are literally thousands of employees on this nation who’re related to Narendra Modi. From making a employee to pondering in a giant manner, Narendra Modi has completed this course of. Many of our leaders have completed this. This is a really large occasion. And due to this, we misplaced many elections, however our occasion has by no means damaged. We have misplaced elections. We have by no means develop into clear. Congress has misplaced elections in UP and obtained swiped away. Congress has misplaced elections in Bihar and obtained swiped away. We don’t get swept away. This is the explanation why our employees work for ideology. They work for the nation. They work for the structure of the nation.

Rahul Joshi: Amit ji, one final query. If at some point you’ve full free time, you don’t need to do something, you don’t have any assembly, you’ve full free time, then what is going to you do?

Amit Shah: I’ve 8000 books. I’ve quite a bit to learn. And I’ve a number of curiosity in classical music that I’m not in a position to give time to that. I’ll undoubtedly learn books. And I’ll learn whereas listening to music.

Rahul Joshi: Amit ji, at the moment you joined us. You answered all our questions. Thank you very a lot for coming to Rising Bharat.